# PythonObjectible vs Alternative? **URL:** \ **Category:** Mojo\ **Created:** [April 16, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254 "2025-04-16T14:09:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EzRyder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/ezryder/32/133_2.png) [@EzRyder](https://forum.modular.com/u/EzRyder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/1 "2025-04-16T14:09:06Z")
I’m having an OCD moment here regarding naming, specifically about `PythonObjectible`. To match other similar types, does `PythonObjectable` not fit better? Or some alternative? Trivial I know, but while not a bug it’s still bugging me. 😅 **Here’s a list of a few similar types:** 1. Defaultable 2. ImplicitlyBoolable 3. ImplicitlyIntable 4. Representable 5. PythonObjectible ← Not like the others 😀 6. Stringable 7. Writable 8. Floatable ---
**Author:** ![EzRyder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/ezryder/32/133_2.png) [@EzRyder](https://forum.modular.com/u/EzRyder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/2 "2025-04-16T14:30:56Z")
Brainstorming possible alternatives: 1. PythonConvertable 2. PythonSetable 3. PythonCapable 4. PythonTypable 5. PythonOperable or Interoperable 6. Pythonable 7. PythonProcessable 8. PythonAccessable 9. PythonRepresentable \*\* Better? 10. PythonCompatible I kinda like PythonRepresentable, but defer to the Modular team on the technical implications of ‘representable’. ---
**Author:** ![gryznar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@gryznar](https://forum.modular.com/u/gryznar)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/3 "2025-04-16T18:27:33Z")
Unfortunately, non of these alternatives seems to be correct. `PythonObjectible` (convertible to `PythonObject`) in current state says, that conforming to this trait will allow to convert to `PythonObject` and this is the main purpose. ---
**Author:** ![EzRyder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/ezryder/32/133_2.png) [@EzRyder](https://forum.modular.com/u/EzRyder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/4 "2025-04-16T18:44:43Z")
Then PythonObjectible → PythonObjectable? From a quick search, object **[i]** ble is not a word, so …ible becomes …able? Making it similar to existing types. ---
**Author:** ![gryznar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@gryznar](https://forum.modular.com/u/gryznar)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/5 "2025-04-16T18:51:32Z")
Yeah, this looks better and still correct ---
**Author:** ![DarinSimmons](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/darinsimmons/32/12_2.png) [@DarinSimmons](https://forum.modular.com/u/DarinSimmons)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/6 "2025-04-17T01:29:34Z")
I’d like to acknowledge your OCD moment as the grammatically correct would be, I imagine, “PythonObjectifiable” though such a large word would be Objectionable. The word “objectable” is in fact [a word](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/objectable) though considered rare. ---
**Author:** ![EzRyder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/ezryder/32/133_2.png) [@EzRyder](https://forum.modular.com/u/EzRyder)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/7 "2025-04-17T04:14:57Z")
Initial commit on Github by Chris Lattner: **[mojo-stdlib] Rework PythonObject list/tuple literal creation.** ([link](https://github.com/modular/max/commit/91d285175a40eacffac64be3373b7d27b65e5884)) “… This patch introduces a new `PythonObjectible` trait (better name suggestions welcome!) that has a single `to_python_object()` requirement. This allows us to define these methods correctly in terms of a trait instead of using static reflection. …” ---
**Author:** ![owenhilyard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/owenhilyard/32/41_2.png) [@owenhilyard](https://forum.modular.com/u/owenhilyard)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/8 "2025-04-17T12:30:42Z")
I think that I like `PythonConvertable` the most because it implies work being done as part of the conversion, letting users know it’s not free. ---
**Author:** ![sora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sora](https://forum.modular.com/u/sora)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/9 "2025-04-17T15:33:29Z")
And it’s more generalisable. I also subconsciously used that spelling when talking about that on Discord, one datapoint for its naturalness I guess. ---
**Author:** ![EzRyder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/ezryder/32/133_2.png) [@EzRyder](https://forum.modular.com/u/EzRyder)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/10 "2025-04-17T16:01:19Z")
> [@owenhilyard](#): > > `PythonConvertable` For me, this was first on my ‘alternatives’ list because it fell out naturally when I was thinking about what we intended to do…convert a Mojo object into a PythonObject. ---
**Author:** ![clattner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/clattner/32/201_2.png) [@clattner](https://forum.modular.com/u/clattner)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/11 "2025-04-18T20:26:38Z")
I’d suggest something like `PythonConvertible` ---
**Author:** ![EzRyder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/ezryder/32/133_2.png) [@EzRyder](https://forum.modular.com/u/EzRyder)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/12 "2025-04-18T20:44:33Z")
> [@clattner](#): > > Convertible Ugh, of course `Convertible` would be the correct spelling, versus `Convertable` which is not. PythonConvertible works for me. Better than PythonObjectible anyway. 😅 > **[Convertible vs convertable? - Spelling Which Is Correct How To Spell](https://whichiscorrect.com/convertible-vs-convertable/)** > > Convertible vs convertable ✅ check which spelling is correct on WhichIsCorrect.com - Free Online English Dictionary. Definition for convertible vs convertable ---
**Author:** ![clattner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/clattner/32/201_2.png) [@clattner](https://forum.modular.com/u/clattner)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/13 "2025-04-18T21:01:16Z")
Yep, “PythonConvertible” is what we called it in Swift: [swift/docs/PythonInteroperability.md at main · tensorflow/swift · GitHub](https://github.com/tensorflow/swift/blob/main/docs/PythonInteroperability.md) ---
**Author:** ![clattner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/forum.modular.com/clattner/32/201_2.png) [@clattner](https://forum.modular.com/u/clattner)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://forum.modular.com/t/pythonobjectible-vs-alternative/1254/14 "2025-04-18T21:18:31Z")
It sounds like the team agreed that `PythonConvertible` would make sense - Joe went ahead with a rename. ---
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